diff --git a/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Beatmaps/CatchBeatmapConverter.cs b/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Beatmaps/CatchBeatmapConverter.cs
index 34964fc4ae..7774a7da09 100644
--- a/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Beatmaps/CatchBeatmapConverter.cs
+++ b/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Beatmaps/CatchBeatmapConverter.cs
@@ -23,7 +23,8 @@ namespace osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch.Beatmaps
 
         protected override IEnumerable<CatchHitObject> ConvertHitObject(HitObject obj, IBeatmap beatmap, CancellationToken cancellationToken)
         {
-            var positionData = obj as IHasXPosition;
+            var xPositionData = obj as IHasXPosition;
+            var yPositionData = obj as IHasYPosition;
             var comboData = obj as IHasCombo;
 
             switch (obj)
@@ -36,10 +37,11 @@ namespace osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch.Beatmaps
                         Path = curveData.Path,
                         NodeSamples = curveData.NodeSamples,
                         RepeatCount = curveData.RepeatCount,
-                        X = positionData?.X ?? 0,
+                        X = xPositionData?.X ?? 0,
                         NewCombo = comboData?.NewCombo ?? false,
                         ComboOffset = comboData?.ComboOffset ?? 0,
-                        LegacyLastTickOffset = (obj as IHasLegacyLastTickOffset)?.LegacyLastTickOffset ?? 0
+                        LegacyLastTickOffset = (obj as IHasLegacyLastTickOffset)?.LegacyLastTickOffset ?? 0,
+                        LegacyConvertedY = yPositionData?.Y ?? CatchHitObject.DEFAULT_LEGACY_CONVERT_Y
                     }.Yield();
 
                 case IHasDuration endTime:
@@ -59,7 +61,8 @@ namespace osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch.Beatmaps
                         Samples = obj.Samples,
                         NewCombo = comboData?.NewCombo ?? false,
                         ComboOffset = comboData?.ComboOffset ?? 0,
-                        X = positionData?.X ?? 0
+                        X = xPositionData?.X ?? 0,
+                        LegacyConvertedY = yPositionData?.Y ?? CatchHitObject.DEFAULT_LEGACY_CONVERT_Y
                     }.Yield();
             }
         }
diff --git a/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/CatchSelectionBlueprint.cs b/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/CatchSelectionBlueprint.cs
index 720d730858..7e566c810c 100644
--- a/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/CatchSelectionBlueprint.cs
+++ b/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/CatchSelectionBlueprint.cs
@@ -19,9 +19,8 @@ namespace osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch.Edit.Blueprints
         {
             get
             {
-                float x = HitObject.OriginalX;
-                float y = HitObjectContainer.PositionAtTime(HitObject.StartTime);
-                return HitObjectContainer.ToScreenSpace(new Vector2(x, y + HitObjectContainer.DrawHeight));
+                Vector2 position = CatchHitObjectUtils.GetStartPosition(HitObjectContainer, HitObject);
+                return HitObjectContainer.ToScreenSpace(position + new Vector2(0, HitObjectContainer.DrawHeight));
             }
         }
 
diff --git a/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/Components/FruitOutline.cs b/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/Components/FruitOutline.cs
index 345b59bdcd..0c03068e26 100644
--- a/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/Components/FruitOutline.cs
+++ b/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/Components/FruitOutline.cs
@@ -1,14 +1,12 @@
 // Copyright (c) ppy Pty Ltd <contact@ppy.sh>. Licensed under the MIT Licence.
 // See the LICENCE file in the repository root for full licence text.
 
-using JetBrains.Annotations;
 using osu.Framework.Allocation;
 using osu.Framework.Graphics;
 using osu.Framework.Graphics.Containers;
 using osu.Game.Graphics;
 using osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch.Objects;
 using osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch.Skinning.Default;
-using osu.Game.Rulesets.UI.Scrolling;
 using osuTK;
 
 namespace osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch.Edit.Blueprints.Components
@@ -28,10 +26,8 @@ namespace osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch.Edit.Blueprints.Components
             Colour = osuColour.Yellow;
         }
 
-        public void UpdateFrom(ScrollingHitObjectContainer hitObjectContainer, CatchHitObject hitObject, [CanBeNull] CatchHitObject parent = null)
+        public void UpdateFrom(CatchHitObject hitObject)
         {
-            X = hitObject.EffectiveX - (parent?.OriginalX ?? 0);
-            Y = hitObjectContainer.PositionAtTime(hitObject.StartTime, parent?.StartTime ?? hitObjectContainer.Time.Current);
             Scale = new Vector2(hitObject.Scale);
         }
     }
diff --git a/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/Components/NestedOutlineContainer.cs b/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/Components/NestedOutlineContainer.cs
index 48d90e8b24..cf916b27a4 100644
--- a/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/Components/NestedOutlineContainer.cs
+++ b/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/Components/NestedOutlineContainer.cs
@@ -20,12 +20,6 @@ namespace osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch.Edit.Blueprints.Components
             Anchor = Anchor.BottomLeft;
         }
 
-        public void UpdatePositionFrom(ScrollingHitObjectContainer hitObjectContainer, CatchHitObject parentHitObject)
-        {
-            X = parentHitObject.OriginalX;
-            Y = hitObjectContainer.PositionAtTime(parentHitObject.StartTime);
-        }
-
         public void UpdateNestedObjectsFrom(ScrollingHitObjectContainer hitObjectContainer, CatchHitObject parentHitObject)
         {
             nestedHitObjects.Clear();
@@ -43,7 +37,8 @@ namespace osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch.Edit.Blueprints.Components
             {
                 var hitObject = nestedHitObjects[i];
                 var outline = (FruitOutline)InternalChildren[i];
-                outline.UpdateFrom(hitObjectContainer, hitObject, parentHitObject);
+                outline.Position = CatchHitObjectUtils.GetStartPosition(hitObjectContainer, hitObject) - Position;
+                outline.UpdateFrom(hitObject);
                 outline.Scale *= hitObject is Droplet ? 0.5f : 1;
             }
         }
diff --git a/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/Components/ScrollingPath.cs b/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/Components/ScrollingPath.cs
index 96111beda4..109bf61ea5 100644
--- a/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/Components/ScrollingPath.cs
+++ b/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/Components/ScrollingPath.cs
@@ -33,12 +33,6 @@ namespace osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch.Edit.Blueprints.Components
             };
         }
 
-        public void UpdatePositionFrom(ScrollingHitObjectContainer hitObjectContainer, CatchHitObject hitObject)
-        {
-            X = hitObject.OriginalX;
-            Y = hitObjectContainer.PositionAtTime(hitObject.StartTime);
-        }
-
         public void UpdatePathFrom(ScrollingHitObjectContainer hitObjectContainer, JuiceStream hitObject)
         {
             double distanceToYFactor = -hitObjectContainer.LengthAtTime(hitObject.StartTime, hitObject.StartTime + 1 / hitObject.Velocity);
diff --git a/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/FruitPlacementBlueprint.cs b/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/FruitPlacementBlueprint.cs
index 0f28cf6786..e169e3b75c 100644
--- a/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/FruitPlacementBlueprint.cs
+++ b/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/FruitPlacementBlueprint.cs
@@ -29,7 +29,8 @@ namespace osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch.Edit.Blueprints
         {
             base.Update();
 
-            outline.UpdateFrom(HitObjectContainer, HitObject);
+            outline.Position = CatchHitObjectUtils.GetStartPosition(HitObjectContainer, HitObject);
+            outline.UpdateFrom(HitObject);
         }
 
         protected override bool OnMouseDown(MouseDownEvent e)
diff --git a/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/FruitSelectionBlueprint.cs b/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/FruitSelectionBlueprint.cs
index 9665aac2fb..150297badb 100644
--- a/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/FruitSelectionBlueprint.cs
+++ b/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/FruitSelectionBlueprint.cs
@@ -20,8 +20,10 @@ namespace osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch.Edit.Blueprints
         {
             base.Update();
 
-            if (IsSelected)
-                outline.UpdateFrom(HitObjectContainer, HitObject);
+            if (!IsSelected) return;
+
+            outline.Position = CatchHitObjectUtils.GetStartPosition(HitObjectContainer, HitObject);
+            outline.UpdateFrom(HitObject);
         }
     }
 }
diff --git a/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/JuiceStreamSelectionBlueprint.cs b/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/JuiceStreamSelectionBlueprint.cs
index bf7b962e0a..0614c4c24d 100644
--- a/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/JuiceStreamSelectionBlueprint.cs
+++ b/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/Blueprints/JuiceStreamSelectionBlueprint.cs
@@ -49,8 +49,7 @@ namespace osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch.Edit.Blueprints
 
             if (!IsSelected) return;
 
-            scrollingPath.UpdatePositionFrom(HitObjectContainer, HitObject);
-            nestedOutlineContainer.UpdatePositionFrom(HitObjectContainer, HitObject);
+            nestedOutlineContainer.Position = scrollingPath.Position = CatchHitObjectUtils.GetStartPosition(HitObjectContainer, HitObject);
 
             if (pathCache.IsValid) return;
 
diff --git a/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/CatchHitObjectUtils.cs b/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/CatchHitObjectUtils.cs
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..beffdf0362
--- /dev/null
+++ b/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Edit/CatchHitObjectUtils.cs
@@ -0,0 +1,24 @@
+// Copyright (c) ppy Pty Ltd <contact@ppy.sh>. Licensed under the MIT Licence.
+// See the LICENCE file in the repository root for full licence text.
+
+using osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch.Objects;
+using osu.Game.Rulesets.Objects;
+using osu.Game.Rulesets.UI.Scrolling;
+using osuTK;
+
+namespace osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch.Edit
+{
+    /// <summary>
+    /// Utility functions used by the editor.
+    /// </summary>
+    public static class CatchHitObjectUtils
+    {
+        /// <summary>
+        /// Get the position of the hit object in the playfield based on <see cref="CatchHitObject.OriginalX"/> and <see cref="HitObject.StartTime"/>.
+        /// </summary>
+        public static Vector2 GetStartPosition(ScrollingHitObjectContainer hitObjectContainer, CatchHitObject hitObject)
+        {
+            return new Vector2(hitObject.OriginalX, hitObjectContainer.PositionAtTime(hitObject.StartTime));
+        }
+    }
+}
diff --git a/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Objects/CatchHitObject.cs b/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Objects/CatchHitObject.cs
index 0b8c0e28a7..f979e3e0ca 100644
--- a/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Objects/CatchHitObject.cs
+++ b/osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch/Objects/CatchHitObject.cs
@@ -9,10 +9,11 @@ using osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch.UI;
 using osu.Game.Rulesets.Objects;
 using osu.Game.Rulesets.Objects.Types;
 using osu.Game.Rulesets.Scoring;
+using osuTK;
 
 namespace osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch.Objects
 {
-    public abstract class CatchHitObject : HitObject, IHasXPosition, IHasComboInformation
+    public abstract class CatchHitObject : HitObject, IHasPosition, IHasComboInformation
     {
         public const float OBJECT_RADIUS = 64;
 
@@ -31,8 +32,6 @@ namespace osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch.Objects
             set => OriginalXBindable.Value = value;
         }
 
-        float IHasXPosition.X => OriginalXBindable.Value;
-
         public readonly Bindable<float> XOffsetBindable = new Bindable<float>();
 
         /// <summary>
@@ -131,5 +130,24 @@ namespace osu.Game.Rulesets.Catch.Objects
         }
 
         protected override HitWindows CreateHitWindows() => HitWindows.Empty;
+
+        #region Hit object conversion
+
+        // The half of the height of the osu! playfield.
+        public const float DEFAULT_LEGACY_CONVERT_Y = 192;
+
+        /// <summary>
+        /// The Y position of the hit object is not used in the normal osu!catch gameplay.
+        /// It is preserved to maximize the backward compatibility with the legacy editor, in which the mappers use the Y position to organize the patterns.
+        /// </summary>
+        public float LegacyConvertedY { get; set; } = DEFAULT_LEGACY_CONVERT_Y;
+
+        float IHasXPosition.X => OriginalX;
+
+        float IHasYPosition.Y => LegacyConvertedY;
+
+        Vector2 IHasPosition.Position => new Vector2(OriginalX, LegacyConvertedY);
+
+        #endregion
     }
 }
diff --git a/osu.Game.Tests/Visual/Editing/TestSceneEditorComposeRadioButtons.cs b/osu.Game.Tests/Visual/Editing/TestSceneEditorComposeRadioButtons.cs
index 0b52ae2b95..028509ccd4 100644
--- a/osu.Game.Tests/Visual/Editing/TestSceneEditorComposeRadioButtons.cs
+++ b/osu.Game.Tests/Visual/Editing/TestSceneEditorComposeRadioButtons.cs
@@ -13,8 +13,8 @@ namespace osu.Game.Tests.Visual.Editing
     {
         public TestSceneEditorComposeRadioButtons()
         {
-            RadioButtonCollection collection;
-            Add(collection = new RadioButtonCollection
+            EditorRadioButtonCollection collection;
+            Add(collection = new EditorRadioButtonCollection
             {
                 Anchor = Anchor.Centre,
                 Origin = Anchor.Centre,
diff --git a/osu.Game.Tests/Visual/Editing/TestSceneHitObjectComposer.cs b/osu.Game.Tests/Visual/Editing/TestSceneHitObjectComposer.cs
index 7ca24346aa..550896270a 100644
--- a/osu.Game.Tests/Visual/Editing/TestSceneHitObjectComposer.cs
+++ b/osu.Game.Tests/Visual/Editing/TestSceneHitObjectComposer.cs
@@ -2,17 +2,24 @@
 // See the LICENCE file in the repository root for full licence text.
 
 using System.Collections.Generic;
+using System.Linq;
 using NUnit.Framework;
 using osu.Framework.Allocation;
-using osu.Framework.Timing;
+using osu.Framework.Graphics;
+using osu.Framework.Graphics.Containers;
+using osu.Framework.Testing;
 using osu.Game.Beatmaps;
+using osu.Game.Beatmaps.ControlPoints;
 using osu.Game.Rulesets.Edit;
+using osu.Game.Rulesets.Edit.Tools;
 using osu.Game.Rulesets.Objects;
 using osu.Game.Rulesets.Objects.Types;
 using osu.Game.Rulesets.Osu;
 using osu.Game.Rulesets.Osu.Edit;
 using osu.Game.Rulesets.Osu.Objects;
 using osu.Game.Screens.Edit;
+using osu.Game.Screens.Edit.Components.RadioButtons;
+using osu.Game.Screens.Edit.Compose.Components;
 using osuTK;
 
 namespace osu.Game.Tests.Visual.Editing
@@ -20,37 +27,89 @@ namespace osu.Game.Tests.Visual.Editing
     [TestFixture]
     public class TestSceneHitObjectComposer : EditorClockTestScene
     {
-        [BackgroundDependencyLoader]
-        private void load()
+        private OsuHitObjectComposer hitObjectComposer;
+        private EditorBeatmapContainer editorBeatmapContainer;
+
+        private EditorBeatmap editorBeatmap => editorBeatmapContainer.EditorBeatmap;
+
+        [SetUpSteps]
+        public void SetUpSteps()
         {
-            Beatmap.Value = CreateWorkingBeatmap(new Beatmap
+            AddStep("create beatmap", () =>
             {
-                HitObjects = new List<HitObject>
+                Beatmap.Value = CreateWorkingBeatmap(new Beatmap
                 {
-                    new HitCircle { Position = new Vector2(256, 192), Scale = 0.5f },
-                    new HitCircle { Position = new Vector2(344, 148), Scale = 0.5f },
-                    new Slider
+                    HitObjects = new List<HitObject>
                     {
-                        Position = new Vector2(128, 256),
-                        Path = new SliderPath(PathType.Linear, new[]
+                        new HitCircle { Position = new Vector2(256, 192), Scale = 0.5f },
+                        new HitCircle { Position = new Vector2(344, 148), Scale = 0.5f },
+                        new Slider
                         {
-                            Vector2.Zero,
-                            new Vector2(216, 0),
-                        }),
-                        Scale = 0.5f,
-                    }
-                },
+                            Position = new Vector2(128, 256),
+                            Path = new SliderPath(PathType.Linear, new[]
+                            {
+                                Vector2.Zero,
+                                new Vector2(216, 0),
+                            }),
+                            Scale = 0.5f,
+                        }
+                    },
+                });
             });
 
-            var editorBeatmap = new EditorBeatmap(Beatmap.Value.GetPlayableBeatmap(new OsuRuleset().RulesetInfo));
+            AddStep("Create composer", () =>
+            {
+                Child = editorBeatmapContainer = new EditorBeatmapContainer(Beatmap.Value)
+                {
+                    Child = hitObjectComposer = new OsuHitObjectComposer(new OsuRuleset())
+                };
+            });
+        }
 
-            var clock = new DecoupleableInterpolatingFramedClock { IsCoupled = false };
-            Dependencies.CacheAs<IAdjustableClock>(clock);
-            Dependencies.CacheAs<IFrameBasedClock>(clock);
-            Dependencies.CacheAs(editorBeatmap);
-            Dependencies.CacheAs<IBeatSnapProvider>(editorBeatmap);
+        [Test]
+        public void TestPlacementOnlyWorksWithTiming()
+        {
+            AddStep("clear all control points", () => editorBeatmap.ControlPointInfo.Clear());
 
-            Child = new OsuHitObjectComposer(new OsuRuleset());
+            AddAssert("Tool is selection", () => hitObjectComposer.ChildrenOfType<ComposeBlueprintContainer>().First().CurrentTool is SelectTool);
+            AddAssert("Hitcircle button not clickable", () => !hitObjectComposer.ChildrenOfType<EditorRadioButton>().First(d => d.Button.Label == "HitCircle").Enabled.Value);
+            AddStep("Add timing point", () => editorBeatmap.ControlPointInfo.Add(0, new TimingControlPoint()));
+            AddAssert("Hitcircle button is clickable", () => hitObjectComposer.ChildrenOfType<EditorRadioButton>().First(d => d.Button.Label == "HitCircle").Enabled.Value);
+            AddStep("Change to hitcircle", () => hitObjectComposer.ChildrenOfType<EditorRadioButton>().First(d => d.Button.Label == "HitCircle").Click());
+            AddAssert("Tool changed", () => hitObjectComposer.ChildrenOfType<ComposeBlueprintContainer>().First().CurrentTool is HitCircleCompositionTool);
+        }
+
+        public class EditorBeatmapContainer : Container
+        {
+            private readonly WorkingBeatmap working;
+
+            public EditorBeatmap EditorBeatmap { get; private set; }
+
+            public EditorBeatmapContainer(WorkingBeatmap working)
+            {
+                this.working = working;
+
+                RelativeSizeAxes = Axes.Both;
+            }
+
+            protected override IReadOnlyDependencyContainer CreateChildDependencies(IReadOnlyDependencyContainer parent)
+            {
+                var dependencies = new DependencyContainer(base.CreateChildDependencies(parent));
+
+                EditorBeatmap = new EditorBeatmap(working.GetPlayableBeatmap(new OsuRuleset().RulesetInfo));
+
+                dependencies.CacheAs(EditorBeatmap);
+                dependencies.CacheAs<IBeatSnapProvider>(EditorBeatmap);
+
+                return dependencies;
+            }
+
+            protected override void LoadComplete()
+            {
+                base.LoadComplete();
+
+                Add(EditorBeatmap);
+            }
         }
     }
 }
diff --git a/osu.Game/Beatmaps/Formats/LegacyBeatmapEncoder.cs b/osu.Game/Beatmaps/Formats/LegacyBeatmapEncoder.cs
index acbf57d25f..f14f6ec10c 100644
--- a/osu.Game/Beatmaps/Formats/LegacyBeatmapEncoder.cs
+++ b/osu.Game/Beatmaps/Formats/LegacyBeatmapEncoder.cs
@@ -251,11 +251,8 @@ namespace osu.Game.Beatmaps.Formats
             switch (beatmap.BeatmapInfo.RulesetID)
             {
                 case 0:
-                    position = ((IHasPosition)hitObject).Position;
-                    break;
-
                 case 2:
-                    position.X = ((IHasXPosition)hitObject).X;
+                    position = ((IHasPosition)hitObject).Position;
                     break;
 
                 case 3:
diff --git a/osu.Game/Rulesets/Edit/HitObjectComposer.cs b/osu.Game/Rulesets/Edit/HitObjectComposer.cs
index a7005954b2..8090fcbd32 100644
--- a/osu.Game/Rulesets/Edit/HitObjectComposer.cs
+++ b/osu.Game/Rulesets/Edit/HitObjectComposer.cs
@@ -6,6 +6,7 @@ using System.Collections.Generic;
 using System.Collections.Specialized;
 using System.Linq;
 using osu.Framework.Allocation;
+using osu.Framework.Bindables;
 using osu.Framework.Graphics;
 using osu.Framework.Graphics.Containers;
 using osu.Framework.Input;
@@ -63,10 +64,12 @@ namespace osu.Game.Rulesets.Edit
 
         private InputManager inputManager;
 
-        private RadioButtonCollection toolboxCollection;
+        private EditorRadioButtonCollection toolboxCollection;
 
         private FillFlowContainer togglesCollection;
 
+        private IBindable<bool> hasTiming;
+
         protected HitObjectComposer(Ruleset ruleset)
         {
             Ruleset = ruleset;
@@ -126,7 +129,7 @@ namespace osu.Game.Rulesets.Edit
                     {
                         new ToolboxGroup("toolbox (1-9)")
                         {
-                            Child = toolboxCollection = new RadioButtonCollection { RelativeSizeAxes = Axes.X }
+                            Child = toolboxCollection = new EditorRadioButtonCollection { RelativeSizeAxes = Axes.X }
                         },
                         new ToolboxGroup("toggles (Q~P)")
                         {
@@ -160,6 +163,14 @@ namespace osu.Game.Rulesets.Edit
             base.LoadComplete();
 
             inputManager = GetContainingInputManager();
+
+            hasTiming = EditorBeatmap.HasTiming.GetBoundCopy();
+            hasTiming.BindValueChanged(timing =>
+            {
+                // it's important this is performed before the similar code in EditorRadioButton disables the button.
+                if (!timing.NewValue)
+                    setSelectTool();
+            });
         }
 
         public override Playfield Playfield => drawableRulesetWrapper.Playfield;
@@ -219,7 +230,8 @@ namespace osu.Game.Rulesets.Edit
 
                 if (item != null)
                 {
-                    item.Select();
+                    if (!item.Selected.Disabled)
+                        item.Select();
                     return true;
                 }
             }
diff --git a/osu.Game/Rulesets/Objects/Legacy/Catch/ConvertHit.cs b/osu.Game/Rulesets/Objects/Legacy/Catch/ConvertHit.cs
index 19722fb796..12b4812824 100644
--- a/osu.Game/Rulesets/Objects/Legacy/Catch/ConvertHit.cs
+++ b/osu.Game/Rulesets/Objects/Legacy/Catch/ConvertHit.cs
@@ -2,15 +2,20 @@
 // See the LICENCE file in the repository root for full licence text.
 
 using osu.Game.Rulesets.Objects.Types;
+using osuTK;
 
 namespace osu.Game.Rulesets.Objects.Legacy.Catch
 {
     /// <summary>
     /// Legacy osu!catch Hit-type, used for parsing Beatmaps.
     /// </summary>
-    internal sealed class ConvertHit : ConvertHitObject, IHasCombo, IHasXPosition
+    internal sealed class ConvertHit : ConvertHitObject, IHasPosition, IHasCombo
     {
-        public float X { get; set; }
+        public float X => Position.X;
+
+        public float Y => Position.Y;
+
+        public Vector2 Position { get; set; }
 
         public bool NewCombo { get; set; }
 
diff --git a/osu.Game/Rulesets/Objects/Legacy/Catch/ConvertHitObjectParser.cs b/osu.Game/Rulesets/Objects/Legacy/Catch/ConvertHitObjectParser.cs
index c10c8dc30f..c29179f749 100644
--- a/osu.Game/Rulesets/Objects/Legacy/Catch/ConvertHitObjectParser.cs
+++ b/osu.Game/Rulesets/Objects/Legacy/Catch/ConvertHitObjectParser.cs
@@ -30,7 +30,7 @@ namespace osu.Game.Rulesets.Objects.Legacy.Catch
 
             return new ConvertHit
             {
-                X = position.X,
+                Position = position,
                 NewCombo = newCombo,
                 ComboOffset = comboOffset
             };
@@ -47,7 +47,7 @@ namespace osu.Game.Rulesets.Objects.Legacy.Catch
 
             return new ConvertSlider
             {
-                X = position.X,
+                Position = position,
                 NewCombo = FirstObject || newCombo,
                 ComboOffset = comboOffset,
                 Path = new SliderPath(controlPoints, length),
diff --git a/osu.Game/Rulesets/Objects/Legacy/Catch/ConvertSlider.cs b/osu.Game/Rulesets/Objects/Legacy/Catch/ConvertSlider.cs
index 56790629b4..fb1afed3b4 100644
--- a/osu.Game/Rulesets/Objects/Legacy/Catch/ConvertSlider.cs
+++ b/osu.Game/Rulesets/Objects/Legacy/Catch/ConvertSlider.cs
@@ -2,15 +2,20 @@
 // See the LICENCE file in the repository root for full licence text.
 
 using osu.Game.Rulesets.Objects.Types;
+using osuTK;
 
 namespace osu.Game.Rulesets.Objects.Legacy.Catch
 {
     /// <summary>
     /// Legacy osu!catch Slider-type, used for parsing Beatmaps.
     /// </summary>
-    internal sealed class ConvertSlider : Legacy.ConvertSlider, IHasXPosition, IHasCombo
+    internal sealed class ConvertSlider : Legacy.ConvertSlider, IHasPosition, IHasCombo
     {
-        public float X { get; set; }
+        public float X => Position.X;
+
+        public float Y => Position.Y;
+
+        public Vector2 Position { get; set; }
 
         public bool NewCombo { get; set; }
 
diff --git a/osu.Game/Screens/Edit/Components/RadioButtons/DrawableRadioButton.cs b/osu.Game/Screens/Edit/Components/RadioButtons/EditorRadioButton.cs
similarity index 69%
rename from osu.Game/Screens/Edit/Components/RadioButtons/DrawableRadioButton.cs
rename to osu.Game/Screens/Edit/Components/RadioButtons/EditorRadioButton.cs
index 1f608d28fd..d66856ebd8 100644
--- a/osu.Game/Screens/Edit/Components/RadioButtons/DrawableRadioButton.cs
+++ b/osu.Game/Screens/Edit/Components/RadioButtons/EditorRadioButton.cs
@@ -5,9 +5,11 @@ using System;
 using osu.Framework.Allocation;
 using osu.Framework.Extensions.Color4Extensions;
 using osu.Framework.Graphics;
+using osu.Framework.Graphics.Cursor;
 using osu.Framework.Graphics.Effects;
 using osu.Framework.Graphics.Shapes;
 using osu.Framework.Graphics.Sprites;
+using osu.Framework.Localisation;
 using osu.Game.Graphics;
 using osu.Game.Graphics.Sprites;
 using osu.Game.Graphics.UserInterface;
@@ -16,26 +18,30 @@ using osuTK.Graphics;
 
 namespace osu.Game.Screens.Edit.Components.RadioButtons
 {
-    public class DrawableRadioButton : OsuButton
+    public class EditorRadioButton : OsuButton, IHasTooltip
     {
         /// <summary>
-        /// Invoked when this <see cref="DrawableRadioButton"/> has been selected.
+        /// Invoked when this <see cref="EditorRadioButton"/> has been selected.
         /// </summary>
         public Action<RadioButton> Selected;
 
+        public readonly RadioButton Button;
+
         private Color4 defaultBackgroundColour;
         private Color4 defaultBubbleColour;
         private Color4 selectedBackgroundColour;
         private Color4 selectedBubbleColour;
 
         private Drawable icon;
-        private readonly RadioButton button;
 
-        public DrawableRadioButton(RadioButton button)
+        [Resolved(canBeNull: true)]
+        private EditorBeatmap editorBeatmap { get; set; }
+
+        public EditorRadioButton(RadioButton button)
         {
-            this.button = button;
+            Button = button;
 
-            Text = button.Item.ToString();
+            Text = button.Label;
             Action = button.Select;
 
             RelativeSizeAxes = Axes.X;
@@ -57,7 +63,7 @@ namespace osu.Game.Screens.Edit.Components.RadioButtons
                 Colour = Color4.Black.Opacity(0.5f)
             };
 
-            Add(icon = (button.CreateIcon?.Invoke() ?? new Circle()).With(b =>
+            Add(icon = (Button.CreateIcon?.Invoke() ?? new Circle()).With(b =>
             {
                 b.Blending = BlendingParameters.Additive;
                 b.Anchor = Anchor.CentreLeft;
@@ -71,13 +77,16 @@ namespace osu.Game.Screens.Edit.Components.RadioButtons
         {
             base.LoadComplete();
 
-            button.Selected.ValueChanged += selected =>
+            Button.Selected.ValueChanged += selected =>
             {
                 updateSelectionState();
                 if (selected.NewValue)
-                    Selected?.Invoke(button);
+                    Selected?.Invoke(Button);
             };
 
+            editorBeatmap?.HasTiming.BindValueChanged(hasTiming => Button.Selected.Disabled = !hasTiming.NewValue, true);
+
+            Button.Selected.BindDisabledChanged(disabled => Enabled.Value = !disabled, true);
             updateSelectionState();
         }
 
@@ -86,8 +95,8 @@ namespace osu.Game.Screens.Edit.Components.RadioButtons
             if (!IsLoaded)
                 return;
 
-            BackgroundColour = button.Selected.Value ? selectedBackgroundColour : defaultBackgroundColour;
-            icon.Colour = button.Selected.Value ? selectedBubbleColour : defaultBubbleColour;
+            BackgroundColour = Button.Selected.Value ? selectedBackgroundColour : defaultBackgroundColour;
+            icon.Colour = Button.Selected.Value ? selectedBubbleColour : defaultBubbleColour;
         }
 
         protected override SpriteText CreateText() => new OsuSpriteText
@@ -97,5 +106,7 @@ namespace osu.Game.Screens.Edit.Components.RadioButtons
             Anchor = Anchor.CentreLeft,
             X = 40f
         };
+
+        public LocalisableString TooltipText => Enabled.Value ? string.Empty : "Add at least one timing point first!";
     }
 }
diff --git a/osu.Game/Screens/Edit/Components/RadioButtons/RadioButtonCollection.cs b/osu.Game/Screens/Edit/Components/RadioButtons/EditorRadioButtonCollection.cs
similarity index 85%
rename from osu.Game/Screens/Edit/Components/RadioButtons/RadioButtonCollection.cs
rename to osu.Game/Screens/Edit/Components/RadioButtons/EditorRadioButtonCollection.cs
index 16574c0baf..6a7b0c9ef7 100644
--- a/osu.Game/Screens/Edit/Components/RadioButtons/RadioButtonCollection.cs
+++ b/osu.Game/Screens/Edit/Components/RadioButtons/EditorRadioButtonCollection.cs
@@ -9,7 +9,7 @@ using osuTK;
 
 namespace osu.Game.Screens.Edit.Components.RadioButtons
 {
-    public class RadioButtonCollection : CompositeDrawable
+    public class EditorRadioButtonCollection : CompositeDrawable
     {
         private IReadOnlyList<RadioButton> items;
 
@@ -28,13 +28,13 @@ namespace osu.Game.Screens.Edit.Components.RadioButtons
             }
         }
 
-        private readonly FlowContainer<DrawableRadioButton> buttonContainer;
+        private readonly FlowContainer<EditorRadioButton> buttonContainer;
 
-        public RadioButtonCollection()
+        public EditorRadioButtonCollection()
         {
             AutoSizeAxes = Axes.Y;
 
-            InternalChild = buttonContainer = new FillFlowContainer<DrawableRadioButton>
+            InternalChild = buttonContainer = new FillFlowContainer<EditorRadioButton>
             {
                 RelativeSizeAxes = Axes.X,
                 AutoSizeAxes = Axes.Y,
@@ -58,7 +58,7 @@ namespace osu.Game.Screens.Edit.Components.RadioButtons
                     currentlySelected = null;
             };
 
-            buttonContainer.Add(new DrawableRadioButton(button));
+            buttonContainer.Add(new EditorRadioButton(button));
         }
     }
 }
diff --git a/osu.Game/Screens/Edit/Components/RadioButtons/RadioButton.cs b/osu.Game/Screens/Edit/Components/RadioButtons/RadioButton.cs
index dcf5f8a788..ca79dd15d7 100644
--- a/osu.Game/Screens/Edit/Components/RadioButtons/RadioButton.cs
+++ b/osu.Game/Screens/Edit/Components/RadioButtons/RadioButton.cs
@@ -17,7 +17,7 @@ namespace osu.Game.Screens.Edit.Components.RadioButtons
         /// <summary>
         /// The item related to this button.
         /// </summary>
-        public object Item;
+        public string Label;
 
         /// <summary>
         /// A function which creates a drawable icon to represent this item. If null, a sane default should be used.
@@ -26,21 +26,14 @@ namespace osu.Game.Screens.Edit.Components.RadioButtons
 
         private readonly Action action;
 
-        public RadioButton(object item, Action action, Func<Drawable> createIcon = null)
+        public RadioButton(string label, Action action, Func<Drawable> createIcon = null)
         {
-            Item = item;
+            Label = label;
             CreateIcon = createIcon;
             this.action = action;
             Selected = new BindableBool();
         }
 
-        public RadioButton(string item)
-            : this(item, null)
-        {
-            Item = item;
-            action = null;
-        }
-
         /// <summary>
         /// Selects this <see cref="RadioButton"/>.
         /// </summary>
diff --git a/osu.Game/Screens/Edit/EditorBeatmap.cs b/osu.Game/Screens/Edit/EditorBeatmap.cs
index be53abbd55..7de98e5e85 100644
--- a/osu.Game/Screens/Edit/EditorBeatmap.cs
+++ b/osu.Game/Screens/Edit/EditorBeatmap.cs
@@ -46,12 +46,22 @@ namespace osu.Game.Screens.Edit
 
         public readonly IBeatmap PlayableBeatmap;
 
+        /// <summary>
+        /// Whether at least one timing control point is present and providing timing information.
+        /// </summary>
+        public IBindable<bool> HasTiming => hasTiming;
+
+        private readonly Bindable<bool> hasTiming = new Bindable<bool>();
+
         [CanBeNull]
         public readonly ISkin BeatmapSkin;
 
         [Resolved]
         private BindableBeatDivisor beatDivisor { get; set; }
 
+        [Resolved]
+        private EditorClock editorClock { get; set; }
+
         private readonly IBeatmapProcessor beatmapProcessor;
 
         private readonly Dictionary<HitObject, Bindable<double>> startTimeBindables = new Dictionary<HitObject, Bindable<double>>();
@@ -238,6 +248,8 @@ namespace osu.Game.Screens.Edit
 
             if (batchPendingUpdates.Count > 0)
                 UpdateState();
+
+            hasTiming.Value = !ReferenceEquals(ControlPointInfo.TimingPointAt(editorClock.CurrentTime), TimingControlPoint.DEFAULT);
         }
 
         protected override void UpdateState()
diff --git a/osu.Game/Screens/Play/Player.cs b/osu.Game/Screens/Play/Player.cs
index dbe8d530b9..0e4d38660b 100644
--- a/osu.Game/Screens/Play/Player.cs
+++ b/osu.Game/Screens/Play/Player.cs
@@ -955,7 +955,11 @@ namespace osu.Game.Screens.Play
 
             // if arriving here and the results screen preparation task hasn't run, it's safe to say the user has not completed the beatmap.
             if (prepareScoreForDisplayTask == null)
+            {
                 Score.ScoreInfo.Passed = false;
+                // potentially should be ScoreRank.F instead? this is the best alternative for now.
+                Score.ScoreInfo.Rank = ScoreRank.D;
+            }
 
             // EndPlaying() is typically called from ReplayRecorder.Dispose(). Disposal is currently asynchronous.
             // To resolve test failures, forcefully end playing synchronously when this screen exits.